Wipers not working

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Craig Pickles

Hi Guys,

I have a K Reg astra 1.4i estate. The other day the wipers started to
stick, they would work for a hile but then stick half way across the
windscreen. If I moved them they would work for another couple of
goes and stick again.

After a while it got worse to the point where a white smoke came from
what seemed to be the earth wire, could have been the motor though.
Then it stopped working completely.

I went to a scrapyard today and got a motor from another car
(cosmetically in very good condition) and replaced it, started the
wipers again and nothing happened. I tried to move the wiper manually
and white smoke came out again (seemed like the earth wire, but could
have been the motor). Replaced the earth wire but it still doesn't
work.

I dont really know what to do now, I could have got a bad motor, I
dont know? Also, I have checked the fuse and thats fine. I only
passed my test a couple of months ago and this is my first car since
passing so dont know much about cars. I notice by the fusebox theres
a black box with a windscreen wiper emblem on it, I am guessing that a
relay or a switch? Could it be that?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

Craig
 
Craig Pickles said:
Hi Guys,

I have a K Reg astra 1.4i estate. The other day the wipers started to
stick, they would work for a hile but then stick half way across the
windscreen. If I moved them they would work for another couple of
goes and stick again.

After a while it got worse to the point where a white smoke came from
what seemed to be the earth wire, could have been the motor though.
Then it stopped working completely.

I went to a scrapyard today and got a motor from another car
(cosmetically in very good condition) and replaced it, started the
wipers again and nothing happened. I tried to move the wiper manually
and white smoke came out again (seemed like the earth wire, but could
have been the motor). Replaced the earth wire but it still doesn't
work.

I dont really know what to do now, I could have got a bad motor, I
dont know? Also, I have checked the fuse and thats fine. I only
passed my test a couple of months ago and this is my first car since
passing so dont know much about cars. I notice by the fusebox theres
a black box with a windscreen wiper emblem on it, I am guessing that a
relay or a switch? Could it be that?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

Craig
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You should of replaced the Relay first you retard.
 
Craig said:
Hi Guys,

I have a K Reg astra 1.4i estate. The other day the wipers started to
stick, they would work for a hile but then stick half way across the
windscreen. If I moved them they would work for another couple of
goes and stick again.
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It sounds to me as if the wiper mechanism had seized or jammed.
Can you move the mechanism easily without the motor?
By now I would say that you have damaged some of the wiring and will
probably need to get it looked at by an auto-electrician.
Dave
 
You should of replaced the Relay first you retard.

It's "have", as in "you should have replaced the relay first". And there
should be a comma after "relay", as in "relay, you retard". If you must post
b*l*ks against every reasonable question on here, the least you could do is
use it as an opportunity to practice your spelling and grammar.

Are you sure you work in a London VX dealership? Only i suspect you actually
work in my local Vauxhall dealer. Or my local Audi dealer. Or any one of a
million overpriced chrome-and-glass dealerships where no-one can figure
anything out unless the computerised diagnostic system tells them how. But
if you really are a technician for Vauxhall, then I hope they hang their
heads in shame.

Mike.
 
It sounds to me as if the wiper mechanism had seized or jammed.
Can you move the mechanism easily without the motor?
By now I would say that you have damaged some of the wiring and will
probably need to get it looked at by an auto-electrician.
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Hi, thanks for you reply, I can move the mechanism with no problems.
Is it possible that the relay could be broke now or is it really
likely that the wiring could be broken?

Is there any way I can test this? I do have a voltage tester (a
screwdriver type on one side and bulldog clip on the other) but
wouldnt know how to test for such things

Thanks

Craig
 
Well thank you Mike for that worthless contribution.
The op was asking for help on the wipers so your piece was of no help.

As you know so much about main dealers I guess your another sucker that we
fleece on a daily basis.
What's up Mike are you feeling a little bitter because you got ripped off?
Or maybe your to stupid to fix the cat yourself.

Now let me address your next comment.
I can diagnose without using the diagnostic system but the system is
quicker.
With the diagnostic system I can also look back at previous stored fault
codes.
Ask any mechanic and they will tell you the diagnostic system is better.


You home mechanics make me laugh you change the spark plugs and suddenly
your an expert.
 
You should of replaced the Relay first you retard.
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Reading between the lines then, do you suspect that there is/was
nothing wrong with the winder motor, and that the problem lies with
the Relay which can simply be swapped out?

If so, then I will source another one and do what you recommend?

Cheers,

Craig
 
Craig said:
Hi Guys,

I have a K Reg astra 1.4i estate. The other day the wipers started to
stick, they would work for a hile but then stick half way across the
windscreen. If I moved them they would work for another couple of
goes and stick again.

After a while it got worse to the point where a white smoke came from
what seemed to be the earth wire, could have been the motor though.
Then it stopped working completely.

I went to a scrapyard today and got a motor from another car
(cosmetically in very good condition) and replaced it, started the
wipers again and nothing happened. I tried to move the wiper manually
and white smoke came out again (seemed like the earth wire, but could
have been the motor). Replaced the earth wire but it still doesn't
work.

I dont really know what to do now, I could have got a bad motor, I
dont know? Also, I have checked the fuse and thats fine. I only
passed my test a couple of months ago and this is my first car since
passing so dont know much about cars. I notice by the fusebox theres
a black box with a windscreen wiper emblem on it, I am guessing that a
relay or a switch? Could it be that?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

Craig
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Suspect everything, the motors tend to get wet inside and the magnets
come adrift causing things to stop, if your lucky you can take them
apart and rebuild one, BTDT.....
 
Where did you put the earth wire? Did you earth the motor to the car body?
 
Where did you put the earth wire? Did you earth the motor to the car body?
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There was already an earth wire on the system so I put it on the same
place, it goes from one of the nuts holding the motor on to the
chasis.

I have just replaced the relay and it still doesnt work. The relay
does make a clicking noice when the wipers are on intermittent but the
wiper motor doesnt do anything at all.

Does that help?

Craig
 
Craig said:
There was already an earth wire on the system so I put it on the same
place, it goes from one of the nuts holding the motor on to the
chasis.

I have just replaced the relay and it still doesnt work. The relay
does make a clicking noice when the wipers are on intermittent but the
wiper motor doesnt do anything at all.

Does that help?

Craig
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Hum?!? you might have blown the fuse. Worth a check.
From your comments earlier, the reason I suggested an auto electrician
is that you might have damaged the wiring to the motor, switch or relay.
The un-practiced eye can easily miss damage that causes big problems
later. Damaged wiring can (not always) lead to a short circuit and
possible fire. You wont enjoy that experience!
An inspection shouldn't be too expensive.
Dave
 
Hum?!? you might have blown the fuse. Worth a check.
From your comments earlier, the reason I suggested an auto electrician
is that you might have damaged the wiring to the motor, switch or relay.
The un-practiced eye can easily miss damage that causes big problems
later. Damaged wiring can (not always) lead to a short circuit and
possible fire. You wont enjoy that experience!
An inspection shouldn't be too expensive.
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Hi, Thanks for the reply.

I have checked the fuse (Its the same fuse for the back wipers and
horn and they work fine).

Could be that the wiper motor I got from the scrapyard was knackered
too? I understand what your saying about wiring, but as the relay
works fine does that suggest that the wiring (At least to the relay)
is pretty much fine from the point of view of running thewiper motor?
(obviously taking into account your concerns about the wiring)

Cheers

Craig
 
Craig Pickles wrote:

Hi, Thanks for the reply.

I have checked the fuse (Its the same fuse for the back wipers and
horn and they work fine).

Could be that the wiper motor I got from the scrapyard was knackered
too? I understand what your saying about wiring, but as the relay
works fine does that suggest that the wiring (At least to the relay)
is pretty much fine from the point of view of running thewiper motor?
(obviously taking into account your concerns about the wiring)

Cheers

Craig
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Yes it's possible that the motor from the scrapy was also duff. See if
you can get them to test it for you.
You need to check that the 12V feed is getting to the motor. A 12V test
lamp can be handy here. A multimeter is better.
Check that the 12V supply is reaching the motor. Disconnect the plug to
the motor (guessing that there is one, dont know for certain) i.e. the
lamp lights when the motor should operate.
Check that the earth for the motor is connected and not broken or burnt out.
I think you might need to ask around your mates to see if one has some
experience of wiring/electrics/electronics. A good sparky mate with a
good multimeter could save you hours of grief and earn himself a pint or
three :-)
Dave
 
Dave is right - just check for feeds to the motor.
Will be the earth - one that is live when the ignition is on all the time
regardless of switch position and then the ones that are live when switch is
in position 1 and 2.
 
Well thank you Mike for that worthless contribution.
The op was asking for help on the wipers so your piece was of no help.
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And of course, you were so helpful yourself. As I recall, all you did was
throw playground insults at the OP.
As you know so much about main dealers I guess your another sucker that we
fleece on a daily basis.
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Not any more. My local Vauxhall dealer knows far less about my Vauxhall than
I do.
Or maybe your to stupid to fix the cat yourself.
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I must admit I am not a qualified veterinary surgeon, no. But we were
talking about Vauxhalls. And you still need to address that spelling and
grammar issue of yours.
Now let me address your next comment.
I can diagnose without using the diagnostic system but the system is
quicker.
With the diagnostic system I can also look back at previous stored fault
codes.
Ask any mechanic and they will tell you the diagnostic system is better.
Click to expand...

Depends on the car. You won't get very far trying to plug it into my
Vauxhall, but that won't stop my local dealer having a go and charging me
for the privilege.
You home mechanics make me laugh you change the spark plugs and suddenly
your an expert.
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Sweeping generalisation based on no knowledge of who you're talking to. And
it's "you're an expert", not "your an expert".

End of trolling competition.
Mike.
 
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