ICV on 2.2 Zafira

[Paul Edwards]

Hi All

I have had my 2.2 Zafira for a week and have started having the odd problem
with eratic idling and being a pain to start (it starts then dies). It
always seems to happen when it is warm and has been stopped for a few
minutes. I presume from what I have seen that this is a classic ICV issue
and a good clean up should sort it.

I bought a haynes manual for it but it does not mention an ICV for the 2.2.
It talks about an idle stepper motor on all other engines but does not
mention it on my engine. By the way I wonder how much they have to invest in
printing machines to print on such low quality paper. The complexity of cars
must have doubled in the past 20 years but the manuals are thinner now then
they ever used to be (or maybe they just miss big bits out).

So the question is does it have one? If so where abouts on the throttle body
is it? I have taken the cover off and had a look and cannot see one.

The dealer I bought the car off will sort it this time but I presume it will
happen again at a later date so it would be good to know what to do next
time it happens.

Any help appreciated.

Paul

 

[me140]

It doesn't have a stepper motor as such - just give the throttle butterfly
area a really good clean.

 

[Mik]

Hi All
SNIP<

I bought a haynes manual for it but it does not mention an ICV for the 2.2.
It talks about an idle stepper motor on all other engines but does not
mention it on my engine. By the way I wonder how much they have to invest in
printing machines to print on such low quality paper. The complexity of cars
must have doubled in the past 20 years but the manuals are thinner now then
they ever used to be (or maybe they just miss big bits out).
SNIP<

I think there is a gap in the market now for car manuals. Something
printed on quality paper, with high definition photo`s and written ( or
commented on ) by someone who works actually works on the particular model
of car being reviewed for a living.
So more tips, what to watch out for, such as common problems and
solutions. Far more detail on what can be done by a home mechanic and the
engine stripdown at the back as a suppliment. Triple the number of pages,
make it a real tour de force on the model concerned and price it
accordingly....
Mik

 

[airsmoothed]

I think there is a gap in the market now for car manuals. Something
printed on quality paper, with high definition photo`s and written ( or
commented on ) by someone who works actually works on the particular model
of car being reviewed for a living.
So more tips, what to watch out for, such as common problems and
solutions. Far more detail on what can be done by a home mechanic and the
engine stripdown at the back as a suppliment. Triple the number of pages,
make it a real tour de force on the model concerned and price it
accordingly....
Mik

I like the sound of that Mik, but I think the problem from a commercial
point of view is that the number of home mechanics is going down ( IMHO
anyway) whilst cars are becoming more and more complex, from an
electronics point of view, leaving very little scope for the DIY
mechanic to do anything anyway. Plus, with the increasing use of
multiplex wiring systems with proprietary protocols even basic fault
code reading / debugging is becoming difficult :-(.

Hence the manuals would end up being very expensive to produce & sell,
with a very small potential market.

 

[Ian Stirling]

I think there is a gap in the market now for car manuals. Something
printed on quality paper, with high definition photo`s and written ( or
commented on ) by someone who works actually works on the particular model
of car being reviewed for a living.

Legislation requiring a manual on CD free with the car would be nice.

There are emerging wikis for some cars.

 

[Mik]

I like the sound of that Mik, but I think the problem from a commercial
point of view is that the number of home mechanics is going down ( IMHO
anyway) whilst cars are becoming more and more complex, from an
electronics point of view, leaving very little scope for the DIY
mechanic to do anything anyway. Plus, with the increasing use of> multiplex wiring systems with proprietary protocols even basic fault
code reading / debugging is becoming difficult :-(.

Hence the manuals would end up being very expensive to produce & sell,
with a very small potential market.

Yes, I agree. I would pay triple though if they would get into more detail.
But then..... A lot car owners these days (IMHO) have so little interest
that they struggle even to put top up fluids in the correct filler,
despite being colour coded, Let alone read the handbook.
Maybe its telling that three new haynes manuals are *Baby* *Man* and *sex*
While I want one for a Fiat Panda Multijet Mik