Astra ECU, cat. problems

Discussion in 'Astra' started by RJK, Jun 27, 2007.

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    RJK Guest

    Here's where I try not to write a whole book :) ...and switch into Yoda
    speak !

    Dads' 1996 Astra Estate 1.6 16v CDX just failed its' MOT, (by a VX dealer),
    on emissions,
    VX said it may be just a sensor, (I'm guessing they meant the exhaust
    manifold Lambda/oxygen sensor), and so we left the car there. 2 hours
    after we got home they phoned to say it was not the Lambda and that the cat.
    had failed. On the last MOT
    just after he bought the car, it failed on emissions and had to have a new
    cat. !
    ....collected car and brought it home we did :)

    So I started to investigate, trawled around web and found
    http://www.topbuzz.co.uk/info/fault_codes/fault_codes.htm#gm and the OBDII
    site but, (couldn't find anything on OBDII!).
    ....discovered that the ECU lamp in the driver instrument panel had been
    removed, (so I put a new lamp in it).
    ....bit puzzled as to Dad's car having a 16 pin ALDL connector on the fuse
    panel, and http://www.topbuzz.co.uk indicating that it would be a Simtec
    56.5 system which reports 4 digit codes, yet when I stuck the paperclip in
    it, and switched on the ignition, it blinked out "2 digit" codes -> 12, 47,
    85, 84, 92, 93, and 19
    ....am guessing that it's GM-Multec-CFi ECU, (process of elimination / none
    of the others have a code 47?). I can't see the engine no. on the engine
    block - and last night I spent ages taking out the trim on the passenger
    side footwell/kick panel just to discover two big electrical connectors and
    no ECU ! ...well I thought the Haynes manual "ECU is under the kick panel on
    the right side of the car" meant as one stands looking at the car -
    obviously it meant as one sits in it ? <blush>

    ....anyway, I've bought a new front pipe, and cat. section, and gaskets, and
    in a couple of days when my old boss has a free ramp, I'll fit them. He
    also said that he can plug onto the 16 pin ALDL connector with his whopping
    big diagnostics equipment in his workshop. So perhaps he'll help me sort it
    out. Though, he's doing a ful service on another ramp, so I'll have to try
    and not be a nuisance.
    My question, or concern if you like is what is causing these cat's to fail
    prematurely on Dads' car ?
    The nearest thing I could come up with, is to do with the error codes & ECU
    light permanently on. i.e. I read somewhere that if it stays on for more
    than 30 seconds, the ECU switches to an emergency program to keep the engine
    running and therefore "engine management" and "emissions control" etc. are
    not being used. Does this perhaps mean that a fuel rich exhaust gas could
    be poisoning the catalytic converter ? ...well that's my best theory so
    far.

    Any pointers gratefully accepted
    TIA
    ....regards, Richard
     
    RJK, Jun 27, 2007
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    mikeFNB Guest

    well i'd certainly go with limp home mode eventually kill a cat.
    i've seen that before but ofcourse its why its going into limp home mode?
    i'd do the work and go from there, should give you some codes to look at.

    the only other thing that springs to mind is a hole in the manifold letting
    in air or poor manifold gasket where muppets have sheared the studs off?
    found that to be the case on a 1997 sintra with the same engine,
    pig to change on a sintra mind you!

    mike
     
    mikeFNB, Jun 28, 2007
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  3. RJK

    RJK Guest

    Thanks MikeFNB, ...much appreciated.

    regards, Richard
     
    RJK, Jun 28, 2007
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    Gerryo Guest

    Overfilling with oil might cause early cat failure.

    Also, check the auxillary air pump & the associated valve, these are
    supposed to protect the cat by supplying extra air on startup
    (counteracts the rich fuel mixture). Usually this pump only runs for 1
    minute or so after startup.
     
    Gerryo, Aug 5, 2007
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