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Bill

Hi,
I'm wondering if anybody knows of any sites good learning meterials for
learning about cars. Ive used the AA book of the car in the past so
anything like this will be ideal.

Bill
 
Have you tried the local library or book store? Do a search with your favorite
search engine.
 
Thomas Moats said:
Have you tried the local library or book store? Do a search with your favorite
search engine.
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I'm looking for on line stuff really - so I can print off and go over. At
this present time I'm not off enough to be looking around libraries.

Bill
 
Hi,
I'm wondering if anybody knows of any sites good learning meterials for
learning about cars. Ive used the AA book of the car in the past so
anything like this will be ideal.
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Night course in vehicle maintenance at your local college.
 
Thomas Moats said:
So just what are you looking for, and if I may ask, why?
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I am starting to teach 10-24 years olds car maintance, in about two weeks so
I need stuff I can print or part print, Its hands on but the idea is to
give these guys a look at real work, we have tyre machines, wheel balancers,
Ramps sandblasters etc! some of these guys haven't been to school so I'm
trying to give them the skills to progress in the work place. I have been
out of car mechanics for a couple of years - I'd been teaching other
subjects but this opportunity come up.
Some are still in school they are allowed a one a week to work with me, some
have no knowledge about cars some have, one guy works in a garage on
Mondays and will be coming to me on a Thursdays. Any learning materials
will help from wheel changing to taking out gearboxes, engine removal. We
also have Go-Karts which I will be responsible for getting up and running
Bill
 
Because it is a work related expense ( tax help ), and I'm sure you do not want
to brake copy right violations ( being the good law abiding citizen you are ),
there are publishing houses that sells the material you need. Need to know
where? Network the vocational schools in your area and ask questions.
 
Thomas Moats said:
Because it is a work related expense ( tax help ), and I'm sure you do not want
to brake copy right violations ( being the good law abiding citizen you are ),
there are publishing houses that sells the material you need. Need to know
where? Network the vocational schools in your area and ask questions.
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cheers my man I was wanting to have some materials before I start. I have no
reasons to break any laws or evade taxes (as you suggest) as the company
will pay for anything that is needed. If you are so worried about me
breaking such laws give me the addresses of these so called publishing
houses that sells the material I need.

I was hoping to get started right away.

Bill
 
I would certainly hope you have material before you start a class............I
suggested no such thing that you are looking to break or evade any laws. I
merely suggested that you do not want to do such a thing. If you read my post I
also gave you a possible resource to find the material you need in a legal
fashion. Now I must ask you, do you want others to do the work you have
contracted to do, or are you willing to do the work YOURSELF that you contracted
to do? If you are willing to do that work, you will do as I suggested. Find
those publishers yourself, remember they do exist. How do you think all those
commercial Tech schools get there teaching materials? Where do you think
community tech schools get there material? You are in the wrong place to do
research for what you want to do. Kind of means maybe you should not be in the
position you contracted to be in?????
 
Thomas Moats said:
I would certainly hope you have material before you start a class............I
suggested no such thing that you are looking to break or evade any laws. I
merely suggested that you do not want to do such a thing. If you read my post I
also gave you a possible resource to find the material you need in a legal
fashion. Now I must ask you, do you want others to do the work you have
contracted to do, or are you willing to do the work YOURSELF that you contracted
to do? If you are willing to do that work, you will do as I suggested. Find
those publishers yourself, remember they do exist. How do you think all those
commercial Tech schools get there teaching materials? Where do you think
community tech schools get there material? You are in the wrong place to do
research for what you want to do. Kind of means maybe you should not be in the
position you contracted to be in?????
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I was looking for guidance from anybody who can give it, I haven't taught
car mechanics (full-time) before just apprentices. Obviously I will have
recourses before I start - I have basic stuff from my own days at college.
But like I said at this present time I don''t have the authority to contact
these companies for teaching materials.( I don't start just yet) I am a good
tutor if this is were you are coming from, its just I got the chance of this
job and its mainly hands on (as I said) and I want to introduce paper work
and progress (in time) to proper certificates. I could sit back and let the
jobs flow in and show the lads how to repair these, but I'm trying to make
this my job. I am very well qualified upto a much highter level than I need
to teach, one only need ed to be a mechanic to get the job.

Bill
 
Bill said:
I was looking for guidance from anybody who can give it, I haven't taught
car mechanics (full-time) before just apprentices. Obviously I will have
recourses before I start - I have basic stuff from my own days at college.
But like I said at this present time I don''t have the authority to contact
these companies for teaching materials.
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Ahhhhh,....... no you did not. But being you are contracted to instruct; you do
have the "authority". So get your ducks in line now before your class starts.

( I don't start just yet) I am a good
tutor if this is were you are coming from,
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Good tutor? How well do you know the trade of being an automotive technician
then? Do you know the different trades associated with being an automotive
technician? From what I smell from your posts, I believe this "class" is a last
ditch effort to get employment to the "drop outs". Other wise why do you not
have the resources to do your contracted job?
its just I got the chance of this
job and its mainly hands on (as I said) and I want to introduce paper work
and progress (in time) to proper certificates.
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As I already said there is material just for this purpose. It is available for
schools............you know what you say you are involved in now?
I could sit back and let the
jobs flow in and show the lads how to repair these, but I'm trying to make
this my job.
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Then it looks like you need a plan...............start planning.
I am very well qualified upto a much highter level than I need
to teach, one only need ed to be a mechanic to get the job.
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Qualified for what and what level? You mean you have a teaching certificate?
 
Bill wrote:

Thomas wrote:

Bill wrote:

Setting:
A reception desk in a sort of office building.

Receptionist: Yes, sir?

Man: I'd like to have an argument please.

Receptionist: Certainly, sir, have you been here before...?

Man: No, this is my first time.

Receptionist: I see. Do you want to have the full argument, or were you
thinking of taking a course?

Man: Well, what would be the cost?

Receptionist: Yes, it's one pound for a five-minute argument, but only
eight pounds for a course of ten.

Man: Well, I think it's probably best of I start with the one and see
how
it goes from there. OK?

Receptionist: Fine. I'll see who's free at the moment... Mr. Du-Bakey's
free, but he's a little bit concilliatory... Yes, try Mr. Barnard --
Room
12.

Man: Thank you.

[...] The man knocks on the door.

Mr Vibrating:(from within) Come in.

The man enters the room. Mr Vibrating is sitting at a desk.

Man: Is this the right room for an argument?

Mr Vibrating: I've told you once.

Man: No you haven't.

Mr Vibrating: Yes I have.

Man: When?

Mr Vibrating: Just now!

Man: No you didn't.

Mr Vibrating: Yes I did!

Man: Didn't.

Mr Vibrating: Did.

Man: Didn't.

Mr Vibrating: I'm telling you I did!

Man: You did not!

Mr Vibrating: I'm sorry, is this a five minute argument, or the full
half-hour?

Man: Oh, just a five minute one.

Mr Vibrating: Fine. (makes a note of it; the man sits down) Thank you.
Anyway I did.

Man: You most certainly did not.

Mr Vibrating: Now, let's get one thing quite clear... I most definitely
told you!

Man: You did not.

Mr Vibrating: Yes I did.

Man: You did not.

Mr Vibrating: Yes I did.

Man: Didn't.

Mr Vibrating: Yes I did.

Man: Didn't.

Mr Vibrating: Yes I did!!

Man: Look this isn't an argument.

Mr Vibrating: Yes it is.

Man: No it isn't, it's just contradiction.

Mr Vibrating: No it isn't.

Man: Yes it is.

Mr Vibrating: It is not.

Man: It is. You just contradicted me.

Mr Vibrating: No I didn't.

Man: Ooh, you did!

Mr Vibrating: No, no, no, no, no.

Man: You did, just then.

Mr Vibrating: No, nonsense!

Man: Oh, look this is futile.

Mr Vibrating: No it isn't.

Man: I came here for a good argument.

Mr Vibrating: No you didn't, you came here for an argument.

Man: Well, an argument's not the same as contradiction.

Mr Vibrating: It can be.

Man: No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements
intended
to establish a definite proposition.

Mr Vibrating: No it isn't.

Man: Yes it is. It isn't just contradiction.

Mr Vibrating: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary
position.

Man: But it isn't just saying "No it isn't".

Mr Vibrating: Yes it is.

Man: No it isn't, an argument is an intellectual process...
contradiction
is just the automatic gainsaying of anything the other person says.

Mr Vibrating: No it isn't.

Man: Yes it is.

Mr Vibrating: Not at all.

Man: Now look!

Mr Vibrating:(pressing the bell on his desk) Thank you, good morning.

Man: What?

Mr Vibrating: That's it. Good morning.

Man: But I was just getting interested.

Mr Vibrating: Sorry the five minutes is up.

Man: That was never five minutes just now!

Mr Vibrating: I'm afraid it was.

Man: No it wasn't.

Mr Vibrating: I'm sorry, I'm not allowed to argue any more.

Man: What!?

Mr Vibrating: If you want me to go on arguing, you'll have to pay for
another five minutes.

Man: But that was never five minutes just now... oh come on! (Vibrating
looks round as though man was not there) This is ridiculous.

Mr Vibrating: I'm very sorry, but I told you I'm not allowed to argue
unless you've paid.

Man: Oh. All right. (pays) There you are.

Mr Vibrating: Thank you.

Man: Well?

Mr Vibrating: Well what?

Man: That was never five minutes just now.

Mr Vibrating: I told you I'm not allowed to argue unless you've paid.

Man: I've just paid.

Mr Vibrating: No you didn't.

Man: I did! I did! I did!

Mr Vibrating: No you didn't.

Man: Look I don't want to argue about that.

Mr Vibrating: Well I'm very sorry but you didn't pay.

Man: Aha! Well if I didn't pay, why are you arguing... got you!

Mr Vibrating: No you haven't.

Man: Yes I have... if you're arguing I must have paid.

Mr Vibrating: Not necessarily. I could be arguing in my spare time.

Man: I've had enough of this.

Mr Vibrating: No you haven't.

[From "Monty Python's Flying Circus: Just the Words, Volume 2", episode
29.
 
I am starting to teach 10-24 years olds car maintance, in about two weeks so
I need stuff I can print or part print,
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You're not going to come up with decent coursework in two weeks. When I
used to teach it took me at least 2hrs to prep for 3hrs worth of
lessons.
 
I was looking for guidance from anybody who can give it, I haven't taught
car mechanics (full-time) before just apprentices.
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Teach them in exactly the same way but choose a less "deep" level to go
to.
 
Thomas Moats said:
Ahhhhh,....... no you did not. But being you are contracted to instruct; you do
have the "authority". So get your ducks in line now before your class starts.

( I don't start just yet) I am a good

Good tutor? How well do you know the trade of being an automotive technician
then? Do you know the different trades associated with being an automotive
technician? From what I smell from your posts, I believe this "class" is a last
ditch effort to get employment to the "drop outs". Other wise why do you not
have the resources to do your contracted job?


As I already said there is material just for this purpose. It is available for
schools............you know what you say you are involved in now?


Then it looks like you need a plan...............start planning.


Qualified for what and what level? You mean you have a teaching certificate?
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I have my plan I have the syllabus and I'm ready to go - amongst other
things I have a teaching certificate - which isn't asked for in the job
discription.
You are not listening - All I need for the job is a couple of customers cars
(which I have) I am trying to introduce certificates that are not given at
this present time - Like I said before I could sit back and let things flow.
I don't have to teach these guys how to repair fully this would take far
longer then I have them.
Whats your background? you seem to have jumped on your high horse - I asked
a couple of question so I could start I'm not here to be put down.

Bill
 
Conor Turton said:
You're not going to come up with decent coursework in two weeks. When I
used to teach it took me at least 2hrs to prep for 3hrs worth of
lessons.
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cheers conor, I agree: I have a syllabus, which starts with health and
safety, I have 10 weeks of lesson plans I only have then 12 weeks. I do have
backup stuff, but I feel I want to improve on what the other guy use to
teach/instruct, he retired and I could use his old notes but I feel they are
a little dated. some of these lads haven't been to school for years so I
have the job of getting them up to speed, Ive interveiwed them so I know
their backgrounds some have even been in garages before they come to me, My
job is to teach them time keeping, customer care, etc! I am trying to
introduce a couple of more things that the lads will find interesting.

bill
 
Ah......classic Monty Python!
F.H. said:
Bill wrote:

Thomas wrote:

Bill wrote:

Setting:
A reception desk in a sort of office building.

Receptionist: Yes, sir?

Man: I'd like to have an argument please.

Receptionist: Certainly, sir, have you been here before...?

Man: No, this is my first time.

Receptionist: I see. Do you want to have the full argument, or were you
thinking of taking a course?

Man: Well, what would be the cost?

Receptionist: Yes, it's one pound for a five-minute argument, but only
eight pounds for a course of ten.

Man: Well, I think it's probably best of I start with the one and see
how
it goes from there. OK?

Receptionist: Fine. I'll see who's free at the moment... Mr. Du-Bakey's
free, but he's a little bit concilliatory... Yes, try Mr. Barnard --
Room
12.

Man: Thank you.

[...] The man knocks on the door.

Mr Vibrating:(from within) Come in.

The man enters the room. Mr Vibrating is sitting at a desk.

Man: Is this the right room for an argument?

Mr Vibrating: I've told you once.

Man: No you haven't.

Mr Vibrating: Yes I have.

Man: When?

Mr Vibrating: Just now!

Man: No you didn't.

Mr Vibrating: Yes I did!

Man: Didn't.

Mr Vibrating: Did.

Man: Didn't.

Mr Vibrating: I'm telling you I did!

Man: You did not!

Mr Vibrating: I'm sorry, is this a five minute argument, or the full
half-hour?

Man: Oh, just a five minute one.

Mr Vibrating: Fine. (makes a note of it; the man sits down) Thank you.
Anyway I did.

Man: You most certainly did not.

Mr Vibrating: Now, let's get one thing quite clear... I most definitely
told you!

Man: You did not.

Mr Vibrating: Yes I did.

Man: You did not.

Mr Vibrating: Yes I did.

Man: Didn't.

Mr Vibrating: Yes I did.

Man: Didn't.

Mr Vibrating: Yes I did!!

Man: Look this isn't an argument.

Mr Vibrating: Yes it is.

Man: No it isn't, it's just contradiction.

Mr Vibrating: No it isn't.

Man: Yes it is.

Mr Vibrating: It is not.

Man: It is. You just contradicted me.

Mr Vibrating: No I didn't.

Man: Ooh, you did!

Mr Vibrating: No, no, no, no, no.

Man: You did, just then.

Mr Vibrating: No, nonsense!

Man: Oh, look this is futile.

Mr Vibrating: No it isn't.

Man: I came here for a good argument.

Mr Vibrating: No you didn't, you came here for an argument.

Man: Well, an argument's not the same as contradiction.

Mr Vibrating: It can be.

Man: No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements
intended
to establish a definite proposition.

Mr Vibrating: No it isn't.

Man: Yes it is. It isn't just contradiction.

Mr Vibrating: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary
position.

Man: But it isn't just saying "No it isn't".

Mr Vibrating: Yes it is.

Man: No it isn't, an argument is an intellectual process...
contradiction
is just the automatic gainsaying of anything the other person says.

Mr Vibrating: No it isn't.

Man: Yes it is.

Mr Vibrating: Not at all.

Man: Now look!

Mr Vibrating:(pressing the bell on his desk) Thank you, good morning.

Man: What?

Mr Vibrating: That's it. Good morning.

Man: But I was just getting interested.

Mr Vibrating: Sorry the five minutes is up.

Man: That was never five minutes just now!

Mr Vibrating: I'm afraid it was.

Man: No it wasn't.

Mr Vibrating: I'm sorry, I'm not allowed to argue any more.

Man: What!?

Mr Vibrating: If you want me to go on arguing, you'll have to pay for
another five minutes.

Man: But that was never five minutes just now... oh come on! (Vibrating
looks round as though man was not there) This is ridiculous.

Mr Vibrating: I'm very sorry, but I told you I'm not allowed to argue
unless you've paid.

Man: Oh. All right. (pays) There you are.

Mr Vibrating: Thank you.

Man: Well?

Mr Vibrating: Well what?

Man: That was never five minutes just now.

Mr Vibrating: I told you I'm not allowed to argue unless you've paid.

Man: I've just paid.

Mr Vibrating: No you didn't.

Man: I did! I did! I did!

Mr Vibrating: No you didn't.

Man: Look I don't want to argue about that.

Mr Vibrating: Well I'm very sorry but you didn't pay.

Man: Aha! Well if I didn't pay, why are you arguing... got you!

Mr Vibrating: No you haven't.

Man: Yes I have... if you're arguing I must have paid.

Mr Vibrating: Not necessarily. I could be arguing in my spare time.

Man: I've had enough of this.

Mr Vibrating: No you haven't.

[From "Monty Python's Flying Circus: Just the Words, Volume 2", episode
29.
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