'02 Astra cambelt change interval

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My Service book shows the cambelt and tensioning roller change interval as
80,000 miles or 8 years for the Z 16 SE engine.

My owners handbook shows the 8valve engine as the Z 16 SE (ESS EE) with the
16v as the Z 16 (EXX EE).

So - before I drop a brick - my 1.6, 8 (Eight) valve engine doesn't need a
cambelt/roller until 80k miles, right?

Ta ever so
 
My Service book shows the cambelt and tensioning roller change interval as
80,000 miles or 8 years for the Z 16 SE engine.

My owners handbook shows the 8valve engine as the Z 16 SE (ESS EE) with the
16v as the Z 16 (EXX EE).

So - before I drop a brick - my 1.6, 8 (Eight) valve engine doesn't need a
cambelt/roller until 80k miles, right?
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Wrong - unfortunately. Vauxhall suffered so many belt failures prior to 80k
miles, they rescheduled the interval for timing belt changes to 40k.

This is not an expensive job so don't go a mile over 40k without doing it -
and get all the rollers changed at the same time.
 
Me2 said:
All 8valves are still 80k. Just 16valves moved to 40k.
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If you want to trust a cambelt for 80K - go ahead.
Personaly I would rather go with the 40K figures because a belt + labour
is about £300 to £500 ish cheaper than repairing the engine.
By the way NOT all 8v are 80K anyway, the 1.7 diesel (8v) is 36K - miss
that one at your peril!
Change the water pump as well every 2nd cambelt or if there is any sign
of a leak - no matter how slight.
Dave
 
If you want to trust a cambelt for 80K - go ahead.
Personaly I would rather go with the 40K figures because a belt + labour
is about £300 to £500 ish cheaper than repairing the engine.
By the way NOT all 8v are 80K anyway, the 1.7 diesel (8v) is 36K - miss
that one at your peril!
Change the water pump as well every 2nd cambelt or if there is any sign
of a leak - no matter how slight.
Dave
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I had an L reg astra 1.7 Diesel LS from new and did 147,000 miles on
the original cambelt before it finally broke!
 
The original question was about newer cars but if you are talking about 36k
belts then you must be on about older Vauxhalls. The new 1.7 engine -
Y17DT - belt change is said to be 10years or 100k but an 80k change seems to
be the norm.
 
Me2 said:
The original question was about newer cars but if you are talking about 36k
belts then you must be on about older Vauxhalls. The new 1.7 engine -
Y17DT - belt change is said to be 10years or 100k but an 80k change seems to
be the norm.
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Ah! they must have the Isuzzu engine and not the venerable (slow, noisy)
old Vauxhall engine. 0 to 60 in 18 seconds that was - could'nt overtake
a milkfloat with a flat battery . . . .
Dave
 
Ian said:
I had an L reg astra 1.7 Diesel LS from new and did 147,000 miles on
the original cambelt before it finally broke!
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Funny you should say that SWMBO had an Astra with the old Vauxhall
engine. Gawd it was S--L--O--W . . 0 to 60 in 18 seconds.
That suffered 2 cambelt failures, one when the adjuster siezed and took
out the water pump bearings. That was making a very loud clonk and was
caught in the nick of time. The second breakage occured 15,000 miles and
18 months later when a "forign object" entered the cambelt casing. That
cost £300. The old Vx diesel had valve rockers that broke when the
valves and pistons tangled up. This saved the engine.
Dave
 
Dave Spam said:
Ah! they must have the Isuzzu engine and not the venerable (slow, noisy)
old Vauxhall engine. 0 to 60 in 18 seconds that was - could'nt overtake
a milkfloat with a flat battery . . . .
Dave
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You are certainly right about the performance Dave, after driving a 1.6
petrol Astra estate for the last 13 years and recently acquiring an
identical [later reg] diesel version with the17D engine the difference in
acceleration is certainly very noticeable.

In many ways it feels pretty similer to the old 1.6 petrol version, except
that someone has slipped in half a ton of concrete blocks under the bonnet!

Having said that however I was very surprised on how well it runs when
putting my foot down on the open road and it certainly takes hills a lot
quicker than I had anticipated.

IMO these shortcomings are more than made up for by the difference in fuel
consumption, I'm amazed at the difference, in fact I keep trying to squeeze
more fuel into an almost a full tank, because I just can't believe what the
fuel gauge is telling me!
 
Orange said:
Me2 wrote:


36k
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seems to
Ah! they must have the Isuzzu engine and not the venerable (slow, noisy)
old Vauxhall engine. 0 to 60 in 18 seconds that was - could'nt overtake
a milkfloat with a flat battery . . . .
Dave
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You are certainly right about the performance Dave, after driving a 1.6
petrol Astra estate for the last 13 years and recently acquiring an
identical [later reg] diesel version with the17D engine the difference in
acceleration is certainly very noticeable.

In many ways it feels pretty similer to the old 1.6 petrol version, except
that someone has slipped in half a ton of concrete blocks under the bonnet!

Having said that however I was very surprised on how well it runs when
putting my foot down on the open road and it certainly takes hills a lot
quicker than I had anticipated.

IMO these shortcomings are more than made up for by the difference in fuel
consumption, I'm amazed at the difference, in fact I keep trying to squeeze
more fuel into an almost a full tank, because I just can't believe what the
fuel gauge is telling me!
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You must have the turbo version then - SWMBO old Astra was the 1.7 with
no turbo OR power steering. My goodness it was hard work to park and it
certainly did not take hills very well. Scooting up the A1 from
Peterborough to Leeds was hard work because it was slow out of the
roundabouts, OK when up to speed but easily balked on hills.
Fuel consumption average about 50mpg, that made up for some of the
peformance - - - or lack of it. We kept it 6 years until the engine
started to make noises that sounded like piston slap at 96K.
Replaced with a 2.0 HDi Pug 307.
Dave
 
You must have the turbo version then - SWMBO old Astra was the 1.7 with
no turbo OR power steering. My goodness it was hard work to park and it
certainly did not take hills very well. Scooting up the A1 from
Peterborough to Leeds was hard work because it was slow out of the
roundabouts, OK when up to speed but easily balked on hills.
Fuel consumption average about 50mpg, that made up for some of the
peformance - - - or lack of it. We kept it 6 years until the engine
started to make noises that sounded like piston slap at 96K.
Replaced with a 2.0 HDi Pug 307.
Dave
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I had the non-turbo 1.7, it was serviced every 5000 miles and did
about 50mpg, it was really slow to accelerate and a top speed not
worth mentioning, but it just kept going. I had it for 3 years and did
nearly 150,000 miles in it, never failed to start or let me down,
until the cambelt broke that is. :-)
 
I still have a TDS, chug chug whistle whoosh.
125000 miles on clock. Smokes very little, starts everytime within 2
revolutions of the crank.
Bags of lag, hills for breakfast, cambelt gets changed every 20K miles,
service every 5000.

Drives much better now than new.
 
I had the non-turbo 1.7, it was serviced every 5000 miles and did
about 50mpg, it was really slow to accelerate and a top speed not
worth mentioning, but it just kept going. I had it for 3 years and did
nearly 150,000 miles in it, never failed to start or let me down,
until the cambelt broke that is. :-)
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We had a 1.7TDS which was totally un-inspiring - even checked with the
garage that it actually did have a turbo. Kept for 4 years until wife
drove into a deep ford and knackered engine at about 80k, which was
when cambelt due to be changed. Have since had 2 Focuses - an
original 1.8TD and a new TDCi and both are far superior as far as
performance is concerned, though the TDCi is only getting about 40mpg,
but that's driven hard and easily matches a 1.8 petrol for
performance. The older focus smoked like hell after about 3-4k up to
10k service when it was cleaner - newer car has 12.5k service interval
and I've already started noticing smoke after 4k, but it still goes
well. I know this sounds like I'm slagging off Vauxhalls, but it's
just the Astra generally - I'm very happy with the Omega I drive, but
for a smaller car the Focus beats the Astra by a long way - about time
it was pensioned off.
 
has any of you seen anything of the 1.5 or 1.7 TD corsa? i was offered one
for a bargain price, but want to know if it was up to any good, performance
wise.

Will it be much the same as the astra, i know he block will be the same, but
will the lighter chassis help it out?

Any one got one???

cheers for the input.

Mick out.
 
Me2 raved thus:

:: All 8valves are still 80k. Just 16valves moved to 40k.

When did they change the interval?

Abo
 
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