Oil level in Vectra C, spanner light.

Discussion in 'Vectra' started by Toby Newman, Jul 19, 2009.

  1. Toby Newman

    Toby Newman Guest

    I did an oil/filter change in my Vectra C last Wednesday, and put a
    little too much oil in:

    http://www.asktoby.com/miscimages/Dipstick.JPG

    (Ignore the dark discoloured area... the oil level is as marked by
    "Oil level").

    I thought it was okay, only just over max, so decided to wing it. I
    did about 80 miles on Thursday/Friday and all was fine.

    I've today done a 370 mile journey and after about 150 miles the light
    came on showing a car with a spanner across it*. To begin with it came
    on once every 30 miles or so and went off a minute later, but for the
    last 80 miles of the journey it was on solidly, and the car was in a
    reduced power mode.

    I'm assuming these two things are connected!

    Anyone got any insight, or tips on how to get a little of the oil out?
    I'm considering taking the oil filter off, dripping off the excess,
    and replacing it a few times to get the oil level down but I don't want
    to spoil the filter seal.

    The alternative would be to undo the sump nut a little, but that would
    be a major pain, jacking the car up again, and I'm not even sure how
    well that would work. I don't want to waste all the new oil I just put
    in!

    *fault in engine or transmission electronics.

    --
    -Toby
    Add the word afiduluminag to the subject to circumvent my email filters.
     
    Toby Newman, Jul 19, 2009
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  2. Toby Newman

    Peter Guest

    Toby Newman wrote:
    > I did an oil/filter change in my Vectra C last Wednesday, and put a
    > little too much oil in:
    >
    > http://www.asktoby.com/miscimages/Dipstick.JPG
    >
    > (Ignore the dark discoloured area... the oil level is as marked by
    > "Oil level").
    >
    > I thought it was okay, only just over max, so decided to wing it. I
    > did about 80 miles on Thursday/Friday and all was fine.
    >
    > I've today done a 370 mile journey and after about 150 miles the light
    > came on showing a car with a spanner across it*. To begin with it came
    > on once every 30 miles or so and went off a minute later, but for the
    > last 80 miles of the journey it was on solidly, and the car was in a
    > reduced power mode.
    >
    > I'm assuming these two things are connected!
    >
    > Anyone got any insight, or tips on how to get a little of the oil out?
    > I'm considering taking the oil filter off, dripping off the excess,
    > and replacing it a few times to get the oil level down but I don't want
    > to spoil the filter seal.
    >
    > The alternative would be to undo the sump nut a little, but that would
    > be a major pain, jacking the car up again, and I'm not even sure how
    > well that would work. I don't want to waste all the new oil I just put
    > in!
    >
    > *fault in engine or transmission electronics.
    >

    That doesn't look excessively high to me
    I did have a seriously overfilled Renault once and found the easiest way
    to extract some of the oil was to get the works of a trigger spray and
    extend the pick-up tube with some spare w-washer line that fitted down
    the dipstick hole. Took quite a few minutes of pumping, but I got a
    couple of pints out with little drama, and they were re-usable. Don't
    have the oil too hot if you try this in case you melt the tube!
     
    Peter, Jul 20, 2009
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  3. Toby Newman

    airsmoothed Guest

    On Jul 20, 8:52 am, Peter <> wrote:
    > Toby Newman wrote:
    > > I did an oil/filter change in my Vectra C last Wednesday, and put a
    > > little too much oil in:

    >
    > >http://www.asktoby.com/miscimages/Dipstick.JPG

    >
    > > (Ignore the dark discoloured area... the oil level is as marked by
    > > "Oil level").

    >
    > > I thought it was okay, only just over max, so decided to wing it. I
    > > did about 80 miles on Thursday/Friday and all was fine.

    >
    > > I've today done a 370 mile journey and after about 150 miles the light
    > > came on showing a car with a spanner across it*. To begin with it came
    > > on once every 30 miles or so and went off a minute later, but for the
    > > last 80 miles of the journey it was on solidly, and the car was in a
    > > reduced power mode.

    >
    > > I'm assuming these two things are connected!

    >
    > > Anyone got any insight, or tips on how to get a little of the oil out?
    > > I'm considering taking the oil filter off, dripping off the excess,
    > > and replacing it a few times to get the oil level down but I don't want
    > > to spoil the filter seal.

    >
    > > The alternative would be to undo the sump nut a little, but that would
    > > be a major pain, jacking the car up again, and I'm not even sure how
    > > well that would work. I don't want to waste all the new oil I just put
    > > in!

    >
    > > *fault in engine or transmission electronics.

    >
    > That doesn't look excessively high to me
    > I did have a seriously overfilled Renault once and found the easiest way
    > to extract some of the oil was to get the works of a trigger spray and
    > extend the pick-up tube with some spare w-washer line that fitted down
    > the dipstick hole. Took quite a few minutes of pumping, but I got a
    > couple of pints out with little drama, and they were re-usable. Don't
    > have the oil too hot if you try this in case you melt the tube!- Hide quoted text -
    >
    > - Show quoted text -


    I'm not convinced your warning light is related to the oil overfill,
    which doesn't look that bad to me.

    Anyway, as a general comment i've got so twitchy about stripping sump
    plugs on my recent Vauxhalls I suck the oil out of the dipstick hole
    these days:-

    http://www.screwfix.com/prods/21663/Van-Car-Accessories/Mechanics-Tools/Laser-Fluid-Extractor

    Not super cheap but saves crawling about in the dirt.
     
    airsmoothed, Jul 20, 2009
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  4. Toby Newman

    Clive Guest

    "Toby Newman" <> wrote in message
    news:-berlin.de...
    >I did an oil/filter change in my Vectra C last Wednesday, and put a
    > little too much oil in:
    >


    I'm amazed how stupid you come over as.

    > http://www.asktoby.com/miscimages/Dipstick.JPG
    >
    > (Ignore the dark discoloured area... the oil level is as marked by
    > "Oil level").
    >


    So that will be 1 EXTRA litre of oil. See the handbook.

    > I thought it was okay, only just over max, so decided to wing it. I
    > did about 80 miles on Thursday/Friday and all was fine.
    >


    What a fool you are! It's not just over, it is well over MAX.
    Why drive the car after filling it with too much oil?
    Why did you want to damage it?

    > I've today done a 370 mile journey and after about 150 miles the light
    > came on showing a car with a spanner across it*. To begin with it came
    > on once every 30 miles or so and went off a minute later, but for the
    > last 80 miles of the journey it was on solidly, and the car was in a
    > reduced power mode.
    >


    Oh I wonder why the car is complaining! You really are thick.

    > I'm assuming these two things are connected!
    >


    What, you being thick and causing a fault on your car?

    > Anyone got any insight, or tips on how to get a little of the oil out?


    Yes, the same way as you drained the old engine oil off.
    Why would you need to ask this question?

    > I'm considering taking the oil filter off,


    Why? The car will not work without it. Oil will drip down the engine
    and burn causing smoke. That will only make you ask further stupid
    questions.


    > dripping off the excess,
    > and replacing it a few times to get the oil level down but I don't want
    > to spoil the filter seal.
    >


    Oh dear. You might be better going to a garage if you can't do something
    as simple as an oil change.

    > The alternative would be to undo the sump nut a little, but that would
    > be a major pain, jacking the car up again, and I'm not even sure how
    > well that would work. I don't want to waste all the new oil I just put
    > in!
    >


    That's the biggest laugh I have had for a while. I suggest you buy a
    small diameter plastic tube, put it in the top of the engine via the "710"
    cap and suck the oil up.

    > *fault in engine or transmission electronics.
    >
    > --
    > -Toby


    More like Tosser.
     
    Clive, Jul 23, 2009
    #4
  5. Toby Newman

    Clive Guest

    "Peter" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Toby Newman wrote:
    >> I did an oil/filter change in my Vectra C last Wednesday, and put a
    >> little too much oil in:
    >>
    >> http://www.asktoby.com/miscimages/Dipstick.JPG
    >>
    >> (Ignore the dark discoloured area... the oil level is as marked by
    >> "Oil level").
    >>
    >> I thought it was okay, only just over max, so decided to wing it. I
    >> did about 80 miles on Thursday/Friday and all was fine.
    >>
    >> I've today done a 370 mile journey and after about 150 miles the light
    >> came on showing a car with a spanner across it*. To begin with it came
    >> on once every 30 miles or so and went off a minute later, but for the
    >> last 80 miles of the journey it was on solidly, and the car was in a
    >> reduced power mode.
    >>
    >> I'm assuming these two things are connected!
    >>
    >> Anyone got any insight, or tips on how to get a little of the oil out?
    >> I'm considering taking the oil filter off, dripping off the excess,
    >> and replacing it a few times to get the oil level down but I don't want
    >> to spoil the filter seal.
    >>
    >> The alternative would be to undo the sump nut a little, but that would
    >> be a major pain, jacking the car up again, and I'm not even sure how
    >> well that would work. I don't want to waste all the new oil I just put
    >> in!
    >>
    >> *fault in engine or transmission electronics.
    >>

    > That doesn't look excessively high to me
    > I did have a seriously overfilled Renault once and found the easiest way
    > to extract some of the oil was to get the works of a trigger spray and
    > extend the pick-up tube with some spare w-washer line that fitted down the
    > dipstick hole. Took quite a few minutes of pumping, but I got a couple of
    > pints out with little drama, and they were re-usable. Don't have the oil
    > too hot if you try this in case you melt the tube!


    Why can't people look at how much oil is required and measure it out or
    look at the dipstick while it is being filled!
    Do you just tip bits of oil in from different containers.
     
    Clive, Jul 23, 2009
    #5
  6. Toby Newman

    Clive Guest

    "airsmoothed" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    On Jul 20, 8:52 am, Peter <> wrote:
    > Toby Newman wrote:
    > > I did an oil/filter change in my Vectra C last Wednesday, and put a
    > > little too much oil in:

    >
    > >http://www.asktoby.com/miscimages/Dipstick.JPG

    >
    > > (Ignore the dark discoloured area... the oil level is as marked by
    > > "Oil level").

    >
    > > I thought it was okay, only just over max, so decided to wing it. I
    > > did about 80 miles on Thursday/Friday and all was fine.

    >
    > > I've today done a 370 mile journey and after about 150 miles the light
    > > came on showing a car with a spanner across it*. To begin with it came
    > > on once every 30 miles or so and went off a minute later, but for the
    > > last 80 miles of the journey it was on solidly, and the car was in a
    > > reduced power mode.

    >
    > > I'm assuming these two things are connected!

    >
    > > Anyone got any insight, or tips on how to get a little of the oil out?
    > > I'm considering taking the oil filter off, dripping off the excess,
    > > and replacing it a few times to get the oil level down but I don't want
    > > to spoil the filter seal.

    >
    > > The alternative would be to undo the sump nut a little, but that would
    > > be a major pain, jacking the car up again, and I'm not even sure how
    > > well that would work. I don't want to waste all the new oil I just put
    > > in!

    >
    > > *fault in engine or transmission electronics.

    >
    > That doesn't look excessively high to me
    > I did have a seriously overfilled Renault once and found the easiest way
    > to extract some of the oil was to get the works of a trigger spray and
    > extend the pick-up tube with some spare w-washer line that fitted down
    > the dipstick hole. Took quite a few minutes of pumping, but I got a
    > couple of pints out with little drama, and they were re-usable. Don't
    > have the oil too hot if you try this in case you melt the tube!- Hide
    > quoted text -
    >
    > - Show quoted text -


    I'm not convinced your warning light is related to the oil overfill,
    which doesn't look that bad to me.

    Anyway, as a general comment i've got so twitchy about stripping sump
    plugs on my recent Vauxhalls I suck the oil out of the dipstick hole
    these days:-

    http://www.screwfix.com/prods/21663/Van-Car-Accessories/Mechanics-Tools/Laser-Fluid-Extractor

    Not super cheap but saves crawling about in the dirt.


    You would really pay £40 becaue you couldn't be bothered to measure out the
    amount of oil your car requires? It would only cost you £20 to get a garage
    to
    change the oil and filter if you are unsure of how to do it or how to
    measure the
    correct amount of oil. By puting the correct amount in you wouldn't damage
    the
    car and would avoid the extra self-imposed costs.
    I'm still amazed at why people are so thick - just measure the oil.
     
    Clive, Jul 23, 2009
    #6
  7. Toby Newman

    airsmoothed Guest

    On Jul 23, 9:19 pm, "Clive" <> wrote:
    > "airsmoothed" <> wrote in message
    >
    >
    > Anyway, as a general comment i've got so twitchy about stripping sump
    > plugs on my recent Vauxhalls I suck the oil out of the dipstick hole
    > these days:-
    >
    > http://www.screwfix.com/prods/21663/Van-Car-Accessories/Mechanics-Too...
    >
    > Not super cheap but saves crawling about in the dirt.
    >
    > You would really pay £40 becaue you couldn't be bothered to measure outthe
    > amount of oil your car requires?  It would only cost you £20 to get agarage
    > to
    > change the oil and filter if you are unsure of how to do it or how to
    > measure the
    > correct amount of oil.  By puting the correct amount in you wouldn't damage
    > the
    > car and would avoid the extra self-imposed costs.
    > I'm still amazed at why people are so thick - just measure the oil.- Hidequoted text -
    >
    > - Show quoted text -


    D'uh ... the oil sucker is to suck the old oil out, not to measure the
    quantity of fresh oil going in.
     
    airsmoothed, Jul 24, 2009
    #7
  8. Clive wrote:
    > I'm amazed how stupid you come over as.
    > What a fool you are!
    >... You really are thick.
    > What, you being thick
    > That will only make you ask further stupid
    > questions.
    > I suggest you buy a
    > small diameter plastic tube, put it in the top of the engine via the "710"
    > cap and suck the oil up.
    > More like Tosser.
    >
    >



    Hmmmm..an anonymous poster who comes on superior and insults the poor
    fellow who's likely got an oiled up plug and a check engine light from
    his inexperience at changing oil.

    I expect its an inhabitant of the Gorbals or the Birmingham slums
    with nothing much to do but offer impractical ideas and insults.
    I should mention this: don't get used engine oil in your mouth or you
    might turn out like this anonymous guy.....

    Ask an oil change outfit to dump a little oil. Then try cleaning your
    plugs, or replace them.

    Brian W
     
    brian whatcott, Jul 26, 2009
    #8
  9. On 19 July, 19:53, Toby Newman <> wrote:
    > I did an oil/filter change in my Vectra C last Wednesday, and put a
    > little too much oil in:
    >
    > http://www.asktoby.com/miscimages/Dipstick.JPG
    >
    > (Ignore the dark discoloured area... the oil level is as marked by
    > "Oil level").
    >
    > I thought it was okay, only just over max, so decided to wing it. I
    > did about 80 miles on Thursday/Friday and all was fine.
    >
    > I've today done a 370 mile journey and after about 150 miles the light
    > came on showing a car with a spanner across it*. To begin with it came
    > on once every 30 miles or so and went off a minute later, but for the
    > last 80 miles of the journey it was on solidly, and the car was in a
    > reduced power mode.
    >
    > I'm assuming these two things are connected!
    >
    > Anyone got any insight, or tips on how to get a little of the oil out?
    > I'm considering taking the oil filter off, dripping off the excess,
    > and replacing it a few times to get the oil level down but I don't want
    > to spoil the filter seal.
    >
    > The alternative would be to undo the sump nut a little, but that would
    > be a major pain, jacking the car up again, and I'm not even sure how
    > well that would work. I don't want to waste all the new oil I just put
    > in!
    >
    > *fault in engine or transmission electronics.
    >
    > --
    > -Toby
    > Add the word afiduluminag to the subject to circumvent my email filters.




    REMOVE THE ADDITIONAL OIL ASAP!!!!
    Or else at least the oil seals will be damaged
     
    OPEL PARTS GREECE, Jul 26, 2009
    #9
  10. Toby Newman

    Toby Newman Guest

    On 2009-07-20, Peter <> wrote:
    > Toby Newman wrote:
    >> I did an oil/filter change in my Vectra C last Wednesday, and put a
    >> little too much oil in:
    >>
    >> http://www.asktoby.com/miscimages/Dipstick.JPG
    >>
    >> (Ignore the dark discoloured area... the oil level is as marked by
    >> "Oil level").
    >>
    >> I thought it was okay, only just over max, so decided to wing it. I
    >> did about 80 miles on Thursday/Friday and all was fine.
    >>
    >> I've today done a 370 mile journey and after about 150 miles the light
    >> came on showing a car with a spanner across it*. To begin with it came
    >> on once every 30 miles or so and went off a minute later, but for the
    >> last 80 miles of the journey it was on solidly, and the car was in a
    >> reduced power mode.
    >>
    >> I'm assuming these two things are connected!
    >>
    >> Anyone got any insight, or tips on how to get a little of the oil out?
    >> I'm considering taking the oil filter off, dripping off the excess,
    >> and replacing it a few times to get the oil level down but I don't want
    >> to spoil the filter seal.
    >>
    >> The alternative would be to undo the sump nut a little, but that would
    >> be a major pain, jacking the car up again, and I'm not even sure how
    >> well that would work. I don't want to waste all the new oil I just put
    >> in!
    >>
    >> *fault in engine or transmission electronics.
    >>

    > That doesn't look excessively high to me
    > I did have a seriously overfilled Renault once and found the easiest way
    > to extract some of the oil was to get the works of a trigger spray and
    > extend the pick-up tube with some spare w-washer line that fitted down
    > the dipstick hole. Took quite a few minutes of pumping, but I got a
    > couple of pints out with little drama, and they were re-usable. Don't
    > have the oil too hot if you try this in case you melt the tube!


    I particularly liked this idea because of the low cost and ingeniuity,
    so built a pump out of a Windowlene(TM) bottle and plastic tube.

    http://asktoby.com/miscimages/dipstickSaga.JPG

    Took about 25 minutes to pump what looks like 1/4L of oil. The
    dipstick now measures exactly between MIN and MAX. Thanks for the tip!

    Hopefully no damage was done before I got the oil out.

    --
    -Toby
    Add the word afiduluminag to the subject to circumvent my email filters.
     
    Toby Newman, Jul 30, 2009
    #10
  11. Toby Newman

    Martin Guest

    "Toby Newman" <> wrote in message
    news:-berlin.de...

    < snip >

    > Took about 25 minutes to pump what looks like 1/4L of oil. The
    > dipstick now measures exactly between MIN and MAX. Thanks for the tip!


    I'm a bit surprised that a quarter of a litre accounted for such a
    significant drop in level, per the dip stick.

    Anyway, job sorted - mega.


    --
    Martin
     
    Martin, Jul 30, 2009
    #11
  12. Toby Newman

    Toby Newman Guest

    On 2009-07-30, Martin <> wrote:
    >
    > "Toby Newman" <> wrote in message
    > news:-berlin.de...
    >
    >< snip >
    >
    >> Took about 25 minutes to pump what looks like 1/4L of oil. The
    >> dipstick now measures exactly between MIN and MAX. Thanks for the tip!

    >
    > I'm a bit surprised that a quarter of a litre accounted for such a
    > significant drop in level, per the dip stick.


    Me too. The book indicates that it's a litre between MIN and MAX. I'm
    glad I checked it when I did because I could have easily sucked too
    much out.

    >
    > Anyway, job sorted - mega.
    >
    >



    --
    -Toby
    Add the word afiduluminag to the subject to circumvent my email filters.
     
    Toby Newman, Jul 30, 2009
    #12
  13. Toby Newman

    Toby Newman Guest

    On 2009-07-30, Toby Newman <> wrote:
    > On 2009-07-20, Peter <> wrote:
    >> Toby Newman wrote:
    >>> I did an oil/filter change in my Vectra C last Wednesday, and put a
    >>> little too much oil in:
    >>>
    >>> http://www.asktoby.com/miscimages/Dipstick.JPG
    >>>
    >>> (Ignore the dark discoloured area... the oil level is as marked by
    >>> "Oil level").
    >>>
    >>> I thought it was okay, only just over max, so decided to wing it. I
    >>> did about 80 miles on Thursday/Friday and all was fine.
    >>>
    >>> I've today done a 370 mile journey and after about 150 miles the light
    >>> came on showing a car with a spanner across it*. To begin with it came
    >>> on once every 30 miles or so and went off a minute later, but for the
    >>> last 80 miles of the journey it was on solidly, and the car was in a
    >>> reduced power mode.
    >>>
    >>> I'm assuming these two things are connected!
    >>>
    >>> Anyone got any insight, or tips on how to get a little of the oil out?
    >>> I'm considering taking the oil filter off, dripping off the excess,
    >>> and replacing it a few times to get the oil level down but I don't want
    >>> to spoil the filter seal.
    >>>
    >>> The alternative would be to undo the sump nut a little, but that would
    >>> be a major pain, jacking the car up again, and I'm not even sure how
    >>> well that would work. I don't want to waste all the new oil I just put
    >>> in!
    >>>
    >>> *fault in engine or transmission electronics.
    >>>

    >> That doesn't look excessively high to me
    >> I did have a seriously overfilled Renault once and found the easiest way
    >> to extract some of the oil was to get the works of a trigger spray and
    >> extend the pick-up tube with some spare w-washer line that fitted down
    >> the dipstick hole. Took quite a few minutes of pumping, but I got a
    >> couple of pints out with little drama, and they were re-usable. Don't
    >> have the oil too hot if you try this in case you melt the tube!

    >
    > I particularly liked this idea because of the low cost and ingeniuity,
    > so built a pump out of a Windowlene(TM) bottle and plastic tube.
    >
    > http://asktoby.com/miscimages/dipstickSaga.JPG
    >
    > Took about 25 minutes to pump what looks like 1/4L of oil. The
    > dipstick now measures exactly between MIN and MAX. Thanks for the tip!
    >
    > Hopefully no damage was done before I got the oil out.


    The saga continues.
    I had the engine light checked out today:
    Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) valve problem, at £366.85 to fix.

    This makes some sense to me, because the car will have been burning
    that extra oil, which means carbon deposits in the exhaust system.

    And to think I did a home oil-change to save money!

    --
    -Toby
    Add the word afiduluminag to the subject to circumvent my email filters.
     
    Toby Newman, Aug 3, 2009
    #13
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